{"ok":true,"protocol":"maclain_hunter_q_number_item_v1","qid":"Q1125","item":{"qid":"Q1125","slug":"hunter-proof-god-consistency","path":"/q/Q1125","subdomain":"q1125.4p-engine.com","schemaType":"CreativeWork","recordOrigin":"authored_source","authoredSource":{"author":"Maclain Hunter","text":"\n\nProof, God, and Consistency by Maclain Hunter:\n\nPremises: \n\nP: The existence of evidence, proof, limited forms of Logic including empirical sciences, and Universal Logic is (tautologically) consistent with the existence of the Universal Logic - the Universal Logos containing all logoi, concepts, realities, and contexts. For evidence to exist the Logos must. \n\nThe concept of “good faith” and taking a “good faith approach”, in the sense of being intellectually honest in our Truth seeking is consistent with Logic and by extension God or Logos, as well as proof, science, formal logics, and the nature of evidence. \n\nIt is logically consistent that a logically valid hypothesis can be tested (for validity and truthfulness) through formal logics in a scientifically rigorous and principled manner (making it “logically valid science”). A valid hypothesis of this sort that we will now encode in premise P here is “Logic being God (the Origin of Reality) is consistent with the rationally coherent nature of evidence and proof”.\n\nQ: The existence of evidence, proof, limited forms of Logic including empirical sciences, and Universal Logic is (tautologically) inconsistent with the non-existence of the Universal Logic - the Universal Logos containing all logoi, concepts, realities, and contexts. For evidence to exist the Logos must. \n\nThe concept of “bad faith” and suffering from a “bad faith approach”, in the sense of being blinded to Truth by an intellectually dishonest approach to Truth seeking is consistent with Logic and by extension God or Logos, as well as proof, science, formal logics, and the nature of evidence. \n\nIt is logically inconsistent that a logically valid hypothesis cannot be tested (for validity and truthfulness) through formal logics in a scientifically rigorous and principled manner (making it “logically valid science”). A valid hypothesis can be formed to test this that I will now embed here in premise Q, which is, “Logic being incoherent with God (the Origin of Reality), and vice versa, is inconsistent with the rationally coherent nature of Logic, Coherence, science, evidence, and proof”.\n\nR: Assume ~P and ~Q for a moment. That assumption entails a logical contradiction. For proof to exist, or to even ask for proof like it could exist, for the True God aka Logos (like atheists often demand from theists) or any concept, in the scenario where the Logos is hypothetically or actually negated or removed.  Even a “null result” displays a logical result - in turn displaying Logic and the Universal Logos that underpin these results.\n\nAssume for a moment that a “premise” is inconsistent with a “hypothesis” and consistent with “not a hypothesis”. This assumption leads to contradiction since a premise and a hypothesis can feasibly be the same, if we avoid the false dilemma of saying that P must be either (disjunctively) a premise or hypothesis instead of both (conjunctively) a premise AND a hypothesis, when a hypothesis is coherent with the premise of one’s reasoning. \n\nLogical Proof: \n\nArgument 1: \n\n{P, Q, R, P <-> Q, P <-> R, Q <-> P, Q <-> R, R <-> P, R <-> Q, P <-> P, Q <-> Q, R <-> R, P, Q, R} |= (P & Q) & R\n\nArgument 2:\n\n{P, Q, R, P <-> P, Q <-> Q, R <-> R, P, Q, R} |= (P & Q) & R\n\nArgument 3: \n\n{P, Q, R}\n\nConclusion: {P, Q, R}: \n\nIt is logically consistent with evidence and proof that Logos is God (defined as Universal Logos) and inconsistent with Logic (including Universal Logic), proof, evidence, all “logoi” or finite logics, the True God, and the Universal Logos for evidence and Logos to exist in tandem and interconnected through Coherence. \n\nThe assumption of the opposite and that evidence itself can exist (for anything) in the absence of the Rational Foundation of the Cosmos—the True God also called the Logos or Pure Logic—entails logical contradiction. Even the “evidence of absence”, like the absence of evidence, only exists and makes rational sense in the context of the Logos and Universal Logic also existing.\n\nThe common reasoning is that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and this holds true because the Logos is the Logos and Logic is tautological (self-consistent). However, we should not miss the fact that BOTH the absence of evidence (or the continued search for rational answers) AND “evidence of absence” (null result) reveal the Logos (or God), by existing in various contexts or as rational possibilities, in a manner that requires the existence of the tautological and rationally unassailable Universal Logic - as the Logical Origin of Logical Existence. \n\nIt is worth noting that writing, language, proofs, and text based evidence can be observed by the senses (ie - eyesight) and thus “empirically”. \n\nIn the case of this self-referential proof this self-reference in, the demonstrable logical consistency of the premises themselves, and the logical structure of the arguments (which have been checked by calculator for validity and consistency and passed these replicable scientifically and logically rigorous tests) are observed evidence of the Logos (God of Reason) in Reality and beyond logically and scientifically divorced subjectivity or religion.\n\nEncoding our premises with hypotheses that can be and have been confirmed by the formal reasoning and the conclusions validly drawn from the logical interpretation and interaction of the premises led to unique possibilities. \n\nIt even streamlined the process of scientifically testing the premises, proof, and hypotheses embedded in them. This scientific and logical confirmation shows the synergistic relationship between Logic (Logos) and science (a kind of “logoi”). Our hypotheses can be confirmed by the reasoning. We can conclude that it is logically consistent that the Origin of Existence (or God) and Logic are and must be coherent and consistent and that it is incoherent for there to be incoherence between Logic or Reason and God or the Universal Cause (Logos - Arche).\n\nWhen I say Logic is God it really has nothing to do with “faith” in the sense of blind faith or “believing in God” in that mindless sense, or in the sense of dogmatic false religion (illogical cults). It is a matter, if we speak of how faith relates to the conclusions drawn from the premises here, of our need for “good faith”, meaning “intellectual honesty”. \n\nWe need certain sort of rational faith in Logic to show us the Truth if we are logical or “faithful to Reason” and of good faith (again meaning “intellectually honest”). Bad faith and intellectual dishonesty are inconsistent with coherent Truth seeking and taking a reasonable approach to philosophical exploration of Reality. Those with bad faith can hide the Truth from themselves. \n\nTo acknowledge Logic as the Origin of Reality is a display of good faith and willingness to rationally engage, while the opposite is tautologically the opposite. \n\nThose who might try to counter the proof or premises by saying I am assuming God exists are showing inconsistency and/or bad faith. That is because it is an absurdity to say that the very “Ground of Logic and Existence” (Logos)—that cannot be false and by the Standard of which we know what is or is not an assumption—is somehow a contingent concept, possibly false, or an open question. \n\nThat sort of attempted counterargument is futile as it merely provides an example of the sort of flawed reasoning that we can fall into when we abandon Reason and fail to trust (or have faith) that Reason is the One True God.\n\nTruth Table Analysis: \n\nArgument 1:\n\nvalid\n    ↓ ↓ ↓  ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓  ↓ ↓ ↓      ↓  \nPQR⎪P Q R P↔Q P↔R Q↔P Q↔R R↔P R↔Q P Q R╞(P&Q)&R\n――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――\nTTT⎪T T T TTT TTT TTT TTT TTT TTT T T T  TTT TT\nTTF⎪T T F TTT TFF TTT TFF FFT FFT T T F  TTT FF\nTFT⎪T F T TFF TTT FFT FFT TTT TFF T F T  TFF FT\nTFF⎪T F F TFF TFF FFT FTF FFT FTF T F F  TFF FF\nFTT⎪F T T FFT FFT TFF TTT TFF TTT F T T  FFT FT\nFTF⎪F T F FFT FTF TFF TFF FTF FFT F T F  FFT FF\nFFT⎪F F T FTF FFT FTF FFT TFF TFF F F T  FFF FT\nFFF⎪F F F FTF FTF FTF FTF FTF FTF F F F  FFF FF\n\nArgument 2:\n\nvalid\n    ↓ ↓ ↓  ↓   ↓   ↓  ↓ ↓ ↓      ↓  \nPQR⎪P Q R P↔P Q↔Q R↔R P Q R╞(P&Q)&R\n――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――\nTTT⎪T T T TTT TTT TTT T T T  TTT TT\nTTF⎪T T F TTT TTT FTF T T F  TTT FF\nTFT⎪T F T TTT FTF TTT T F T  TFF FT\nTFF⎪T F F TTT FTF FTF T F F  TFF FF\nFTT⎪F T T FTF TTT TTT F T T  FFT FT\nFTF⎪F T F FTF TTT FTF F T F  FFT FF\nFFT⎪F F T FTF FTF TTT F F T  FFF FT\nFFF⎪F F F FTF FTF FTF F F F  FFF FF\n\nArgument 3: \n\nconsistent\n    ↓ ↓ ↓ \nPQR⎪P Q R\n―――――――――\nTTT⎪T T T\nTTF⎪T T F\nTFT⎪T F T\nTFF⎪T F F\nFTT⎪F T T\nFTF⎪F T F\nFFT⎪F F T\nFFF⎪F F F\n\nQ.E.D. 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A valid hypothesis of this sort that we will now encode in premise P here is “Logic being God (the Origin of Reality) is consistent with the rationally coherent nature of evidence and proof”.\n\nQ: The existence of evidence, proof, limited forms of Logic including empirical sciences, and Universal Logic is (tautologically) inconsistent with the non-existence of the Universal Logic - the Universal Logos containing all logoi, concepts, realities, and contexts. For evidence to exist the Logos must. \n\nThe concept of “bad faith” and suffering from a “bad faith approach”, in the sense of being blinded to Truth by an intellectually dishonest approach to Truth seeking is consistent with Logic and by extension God or Logos, as well as proof, science, formal logics, and the nature of evidence. \n\nIt is logically inconsistent that a logically valid hypothesis cannot be tested (for validity and truthfulness) through formal logics in a scientifically rigorous and principled manner (making it “logically valid science”). A valid hypothesis can be formed to test this that I will now embed here in premise Q, which is, “Logic being incoherent with God (the Origin of Reality), and vice versa, is inconsistent with the rationally coherent nature of Logic, Coherence, science, evidence, and proof”.\n\nR: Assume ~P and ~Q for a moment. That assumption entails a logical contradiction. For proof to exist, or to even ask for proof like it could exist, for the True God aka Logos (like atheists often demand from theists) or any concept, in the scenario where the Logos is hypothetically or actually negated or removed.  Even a “null result” displays a logical result - in turn displaying Logic and the Universal Logos that underpin these results.\n\nAssume for a moment that a “premise” is inconsistent with a “hypothesis” and consistent with “not a hypothesis”. This assumption leads to contradiction since a premise and a hypothesis can feasibly be the same, if we avoid the false dilemma of saying that P must be either (disjunctively) a premise or hypothesis instead of both (conjunctively) a premise AND a hypothesis, when a hypothesis is coherent with the premise of one’s reasoning. \n\nLogical Proof: \n\nArgument 1: \n\n{P, Q, R, P <-> Q, P <-> R, Q <-> P, Q <-> R, R <-> P, R <-> Q, P <-> P, Q <-> Q, R <-> R, P, Q, R} |= (P & Q) & R\n\nArgument 2:\n\n{P, Q, R, P <-> P, Q <-> Q, R <-> R, P, Q, R} |= (P & Q) & R\n\nArgument 3: \n\n{P, Q, R}\n\nConclusion: {P, Q, R}: \n\nIt is logically consistent with evidence and proof that Logos is God (defined as Universal Logos) and inconsistent with Logic (including Universal Logic), proof, evidence, all “logoi” or finite logics, the True God, and the Universal Logos for evidence and Logos to exist in tandem and interconnected through Coherence. \n\nThe assumption of the opposite and that evidence itself can exist (for anything) in the absence of the Rational Foundation of the Cosmos—the True God also called the Logos or Pure Logic—entails logical contradiction. Even the “evidence of absence”, like the absence of evidence, only exists and makes rational sense in the context of the Logos and Universal Logic also existing.\n\nThe common reasoning is that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and this holds true because the Logos is the Logos and Logic is tautological (self-consistent). However, we should not miss the fact that BOTH the absence of evidence (or the continued search for rational answers) AND “evidence of absence” (null result) reveal the Logos (or God), by existing in various contexts or as rational possibilities, in a manner that requires the existence of the tautological and rationally unassailable Universal Logic - as the Logical Origin of Logical Existence. \n\nIt is worth noting that writing, language, proofs, and text based evidence can be observed by the senses (ie - eyesight) and thus “empirically”. \n\nIn the case of this self-referential proof this self-reference in, the demonstrable logical consistency of the premises themselves, and the logical structure of the arguments (which have been checked by calculator for validity and consistency and passed these replicable scientifically and logically rigorous tests) are observed evidence of the Logos (God of Reason) in Reality and beyond logically and scientifically divorced subjectivity or religion.\n\nEncoding our premises with hypotheses that can be and have been confirmed by the formal reasoning and the conclusions validly drawn from the logical interpretation and interaction of the premises led to unique possibilities. \n\nIt even streamlined the process of scientifically testing the premises, proof, and hypotheses embedded in them. This scientific and logical confirmation shows the synergistic relationship between Logic (Logos) and science (a kind of “logoi”). Our hypotheses can be confirmed by the reasoning. We can conclude that it is logically consistent that the Origin of Existence (or God) and Logic are and must be coherent and consistent and that it is incoherent for there to be incoherence between Logic or Reason and God or the Universal Cause (Logos - Arche).\n\nWhen I say Logic is God it really has nothing to do with “faith” in the sense of blind faith or “believing in God” in that mindless sense, or in the sense of dogmatic false religion (illogical cults). It is a matter, if we speak of how faith relates to the conclusions drawn from the premises here, of our need for “good faith”, meaning “intellectual honesty”. \n\nWe need certain sort of rational faith in Logic to show us the Truth if we are logical or “faithful to Reason” and of good faith (again meaning “intellectually honest”). Bad faith and intellectual dishonesty are inconsistent with coherent Truth seeking and taking a reasonable approach to philosophical exploration of Reality. Those with bad faith can hide the Truth from themselves. \n\nTo acknowledge Logic as the Origin of Reality is a display of good faith and willingness to rationally engage, while the opposite is tautologically the opposite. \n\nThose who might try to counter the proof or premises by saying I am assuming God exists are showing inconsistency and/or bad faith. That is because it is an absurdity to say that the very “Ground of Logic and Existence” (Logos)—that cannot be false and by the Standard of which we know what is or is not an assumption—is somehow a contingent concept, possibly false, or an open question. \n\nThat sort of attempted counterargument is futile as it merely provides an example of the sort of flawed reasoning that we can fall into when we abandon Reason and fail to trust (or have faith) that Reason is the One True God.\n\nTruth Table Analysis: \n\nArgument 1:\n\nvalid\n    ↓ ↓ ↓  ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓   ↓  ↓ ↓ ↓      ↓  \nPQR⎪P Q R P↔Q P↔R Q↔P Q↔R R↔P R↔Q P Q R╞(P&Q)&R\n――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――\nTTT⎪T T T TTT TTT TTT TTT TTT TTT T T T  TTT TT\nTTF⎪T T F TTT TFF TTT TFF FFT FFT T T F  TTT FF\nTFT⎪T F T TFF TTT FFT FFT TTT TFF T F T  TFF FT\nTFF⎪T F F TFF TFF FFT FTF FFT FTF T F F  TFF FF\nFTT⎪F T T FFT FFT TFF TTT TFF TTT F T T  FFT FT\nFTF⎪F T F FFT FTF TFF TFF FTF FFT F T F  FFT FF\nFFT⎪F F T FTF FFT FTF FFT TFF TFF F F T  FFF FT\nFFF⎪F F F FTF FTF FTF FTF FTF FTF F F F  FFF FF\n\nArgument 2:\n\nvalid\n    ↓ ↓ ↓  ↓   ↓   ↓  ↓ ↓ ↓      ↓  \nPQR⎪P Q R P↔P Q↔Q R↔R P Q R╞(P&Q)&R\n――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――――\nTTT⎪T T T TTT TTT TTT T T T  TTT TT\nTTF⎪T T F TTT TTT FTF T T F  TTT FF\nTFT⎪T F T TTT FTF TTT T F T  TFF FT\nTFF⎪T F F TTT FTF FTF T F F  TFF FF\nFTT⎪F T T FTF TTT TTT F T T  FFT FT\nFTF⎪F T F FTF TTT FTF F T F  FFT FF\nFFT⎪F F T FTF FTF TTT F F T  FFF FT\nFFF⎪F F F FTF FTF FTF F F F  FFF FF\n\nArgument 3: \n\nconsistent\n    ↓ ↓ ↓ \nPQR⎪P Q R\n―――――――――\nTTT⎪T T T\nTTF⎪T T F\nTFT⎪T F T\nTFF⎪T F F\nFTT⎪F T T\nFTF⎪F T F\nFFT⎪F F T\nFFF⎪F F F\n\nQ.E.D. 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